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Orthodox Jew fined for failing to produce ID on the Sabbath

Tuesday 26 February 2013

An orthodox Jew has been found guilty by a court in The Hague of failing to produce an ID card because it was against his religious principles to carry any object on Saturday, the Jewish sabbath.

The Hague appeal court ruled the man should pay a fine of €60 for failing to prove his identity when asked by police.

Lower courts had previously ruled in the man’s favour, saying ‘the religious requirement is more important than the requirement to meet Dutch laws.'

Piet Hein Donner, the minister responsible for introducing the ID law several years ago, was warned at the time about the problems it would present to orthodox Jews.

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Readers' Comments

" Lower courts had previously ruled in the man’s favour, saying ‘the religious requirement is more important than the requirement to meet Dutch laws."

That is a joke, right? As an expat I keep getting told time and again that I must follow the laws here, and the Government wants to make me sign a contract swearing my upholding of the Dutch Laws. I support following the laws of the land. Just because one is superstitious should not allow for one to be exempt from the laws.

By Darrell | 26 February 2013 4:08 PM

I don't carry any ID on the principle I am free human being not a state subject that must be intimidated by state officers into showing such a thing.

By Jason | 26 February 2013 4:55 PM

Why should we need to carry documents proving who we are anyway? We're all registered with big brother at the gemeente in any case and it should be easy to cross check details. Of course anyone who can't do this or isn't registered should be taken an put in a special place. Maybe we could 'concentrate' all such people there?

By Joost | 26 February 2013 5:31 PM

The law is the law. Whether we approve or not laws are one thing which hold our society together.
We live in a secular society, religious belief is no excuse for ignoring the law.
If we are to pick & choose which laws we obey society will quickly break down.

By Donaugh | 26 February 2013 6:18 PM

Darrell, I fully agree with you. And on top of it this sounds like we are back in the medieval time when religion was more important than the law. If I tomorrow establish a sect, will the rules of that sect also prevail???

By Zuzu | 26 February 2013 11:32 PM

I would be interested to know why the man was stopped and asked for his ID... was he involved in an incident or law enforcement action? On Saturday mornings Orthodox Jews routinely walk from their homes to Synagogue and then back again, staying home, usually, for the rest of the day... without bothering anyone. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this some sort of provocative act by Piet Hein Donner and his group to overturn the lower courts. The guy is a bit of an egoist.

By Quince | 27 February 2013 8:44 AM

Indeed if you would allow an exemption for the Jewish beliefs then watch this space because there are plenty of other religious beliefs then wanting there bit of exclusion.

By Jack Marcelis | 27 February 2013 9:01 AM

Absolutely right.

P.S. I have Jewish nationality.

By Peter | 27 February 2013 10:08 AM

and where is the contract signed by the jewish person that he agrees to the id law? exactly it is not there. nobody is bound by any laws unless they have signed a contract with full disclosure free from any force

By PaulB | 27 February 2013 1:51 PM

agree Darrell, if they use that as a basis then all religious laws will be above the law of the land and then we are in a mess.

By J | 27 February 2013 4:42 PM

The issue here is keeping the Law of God verses the laws of man. (governments).
Observing the 7th day Sabbath does require not to work!
However, what is physical labor and what is not?? If carrying an identification card is considered work, according to the orthodox Jewish beliefs, then anything being on the man’s body is physical labor/work while walking! How far does one take this? Is this what God meant by observing His 7th Sabbath day? I don’t think so! I support the decision the court in The Hague made!

By R.A Driessen | 27 February 2013 7:58 PM

Its got absolutely nothing to do with superstition. Look it up.

By Mike | 27 February 2013 11:33 PM

@Quince, he was a suspect of domestic violence
http://zoeken.rechtspraak.nl/detailpage.aspx?ljn=BZ2283&u_ljn=BZ2283

By pepe | 28 February 2013 11:31 AM

Maybe he can tatto his ID on his arm ?

By hedgehog | 1 March 2013 2:48 PM

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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