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Dutch Euro 2012 squad caught up in row over racist chantingFriday 08 June 2012 The Dutch squad at the Euro 2012 football championships have been caught up in a row over racist chanting by Polish fans during a training session, but Uefa is not planning to take any action, according to media reports on Friday. The Telegraaf said earlier this week the Dutch squad had been subjected to 'jungle noises' during a training session in Krakow, forcing them to move to another part of the pitch. The incident followed a visit by the team, which includes several black players, to the Auschwitz concentration camp. ‘It is a real disgrace, especially after getting back from Auschwitz to be confronted with this,' the Daily Mail quoted Van Bommel as saying. ‘We will take it up with (European football's governing body) Uefa and, if it happens at matches, we will talk to the referee and ask him to take us off the field.’ According to Scotland's Daily Record, Uefa confirmed on Friday morning they had 'no plans' to launch a probe into events at the stadium and the Dutch football association had told them they 'did not believe the abuse was racially motivated'. No formal complaint Piara Powar, of the Football Against Racism in Europe organisation, told the paper Van Bommel has nothing to gain from making up the claim. 'We would side with Van Bommel. It's quite clear it happened,' Powar said. According to the BBC, Uefa has had no formal complaint from the KNVB and the KNVB told BBC Sport the issue is now considered closed. But the Telegraph newspaper said Uefa later issued a statement saying they had been made aware of 'isolated incidents of racist chanting'. UEFA president Michel Platini said earlier players who walk off the pitch without the referee's say so will get an automatic yellow card. © DutchNews.nl Readers' Comments |
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Any player who has any morals will walk off the pitch and say stuff yer yellow card..To ignore this racism is disgusting.The last time we did millions died.Kudos to Van Bommel.No Kudos to the ignorance of the Dutch football association.To threating players with a yellow card is nothing more than blackmail.
By jason buttle | 8 June 2012 1:08 PMThe thing is... everybody knew this was coming. UEFA knew way before the venue was selected that there was "this problem" in these 2 countries. It begs the question then: was there nowhere else?
By phantom | 8 June 2012 3:03 PMI'm wondering if this was not so much a racist chant as a taunting protest in response the Wilders' anti-Pol and anti-Eastern European website earlier this year. Other teams with black players on the practice pitch didn't report any racist chants.
By Quince | 8 June 2012 4:18 PM@Quince, wouldn't it have made more sense to attack lily white Dutch players then? Why did they attack black players?
By pepe | 8 June 2012 4:51 PMFact is that some Polish supporters did this. They are as responsible for their own deeds as everyone else.
Obviously not racially motivated, making jungle noises...
By Sharon | 8 June 2012 5:11 PMwhat the ducth expect you did insult the pole so much in hollland and you want them to recieve you with flowers..time did change beeive me no much people care about the netherlands ..
By bechar dannaoui | 8 June 2012 7:11 PM@jason buttle. It's not the KNVB who are threatening the yellow cards, it's UEFA.
By Donaugh | 8 June 2012 8:06 PMIf Platini & his underlings had done their job & selected a host nation who respected everyone regardless of skin colour, players & fans would not be in this position.
If we are to blame anyone it must be UEFA!
They bear ultimate responsability for the tournaments.
Echoing the other comments on this thread:
By AnotherExpat | 8 June 2012 8:40 PMWhy were these countries chosen? Was there really no place else? If this happens during a match, the Dutch team better walk out!
did the primitive "fans" of a competitive sports club, just hit the Dutch, the fault of the police and security. Everyone in Poland know about your contempt for the Polish people - sorry, you are alone to blame
By danutka | 8 June 2012 9:30 PMzrobili to prymitywni "kibice" z konkurencyjnego klubu sportowego, akurat trafili na Holendrów, to wina policji i ochrony. Wszyscy w Polsce wiemy o waszej pogardzie dla nas Polaków - przykro, jesteście sami sobie winni
Training the Dutch team was held on Wednesday at the stadium, "Wisla", in the stands - about 24 thousand. people. Rooting hard. After a few minutes from the general tumult broke out in shouts of "Fuck Euro", "Ole, ole, ole, Euro pier ... E 'in the stands waved a flag with the crossed symbol of Euro 2012. It's the fans, "Vistula" - in a primitive way insulted EURO 2012 and their league opponents, the Cracovia. The frustration comes from the fact that Krakow is not in the championship match. Some fans "Vistula" rebelled in such a manner to oppose the use of the stadium for his club so unkind to Krakow EURO.
By Danutka | 8 June 2012 9:47 PM@AnotherExpat : what's wrong with those countries ? do not they meet your standards ?
I think it is politically motivated and can be tolerated in the scope of "freedom of speech (or freedom of make noise)" which should not be hard that a lot of people tolerated Wilders.
Maybe one of those so-called racist chanters stood up and say "I don't have any problems with black people I have problems with black color" :) The the court case is over ;)
By RealExpat | 8 June 2012 11:25 PMwhat´s up, orange bong-heads?!
By mikkel | 9 June 2012 10:38 AMGreeting from Denmark, looking forward to a clean game, that means no racism and no nigel de jong. Good luck, pot-heads. PS. I really mean it, nigel de jong is a psychopath who should not be allowed to roam the streets, let alone play football
Just get on with it & play the game, toughen up!
By Phil | 9 June 2012 10:38 AMI laugh at how some generalizations fly easy on Dutch News comment boxes.
Every nation has its share of stupid/ignorant people. Even the beloved homelands of many commentators in North America.
Isn't a bit precipitated to make overreaching statements about entire countries based on what is usually one of the most less educated and wacky groups - hardcore football fans?
By Andre L. | 9 June 2012 12:58 PMKrakow was not choosen as a venue. Dutch team chose to train there, even though they play their matches in Ukraine. And they chose to train at Wisla's stadium, well aware that their supporters aren't happy about being passed over by UEFA.
By tek | 9 June 2012 1:36 PMRacism is an European Culture.
By adam | 9 June 2012 8:46 PMit only takes different forms in each of their countries. so why is the kettle calling the pot black?
Poland/Ukraine aint the worse.
Funny how some commenters are seeking excuses for racist behavior and try to defend the indefensible. And why doesn't it surprise me that some are trying to blame the Dutch for the racist behavior of some Polish hooligans.
By pepe | 9 June 2012 9:31 PMWell, I don't think it has something to do with rasism but Political. The Dutch don't respect polish people so why would Polish people respect the Dutch?
Fair game, Europe support Poland but Not the intolerant and raisist Netherlands with Wilders on top!!!
By Rodrigo | 10 June 2012 12:10 AM@Adam, I could not agree more. Yesterday I saw a documentary in channel called Canvas (I don't know if it is British made or Dutch) the guy goes to Ukraine and Poland and shows racist hooligans and signs of racism (with some shots from local matches and places). Indeed it is disgusting to see that but what is more disgusting to me : if I can have a cam and money I can take similar shots everywhere in Europe. However I have never seen this attitude before I mean Poland&Ukraine is organizing an event and at the same time some other countries broadcasting anti Ukraine/Poland documentaries. So crappy ! Disclaimer : I am not an Ukrainian nor Polish...
By janwill | 10 June 2012 10:28 AMI m black... I was in Poland I was called Mambo.... Just the way someone will call be Buitenlander here in the Netherlands.... can you differentiate?
By adam | 10 June 2012 10:30 AMIt's not even clear that such incident has really happened. There is no confirmation from the press present at the stadium. And believe it or not - there would have been massive criticism of such kind of behaviour in polish media if it had been perceived as anything more than alleged (not confirmed) incident with a few stupid "fans" (of whom whole society would have been ashemed).
There is some kind of paranoia in western media concerning alleged polish racism. There are hooligans in Poland. Could you sincerely told me there are none in Holland or UK?
By Green | 10 June 2012 12:36 PMIt's very common to have double standards. So you can create a site against Poles but you are a racist if you make some "sounds". I'm curious how they know that "sounds" were not against the whole team. They see racism where it doesn't exist.
By rg | 11 June 2012 10:45 AM@janwill, Canvas is a Belgian channel.
By tim | 11 June 2012 5:27 PM@adam, "buitenlander" is the Dutch word for "foreigner". Nothing derogatory about it.
Doesn't matter how you look at it..this gives a bad impression worldwide. Here we are not even talking about only the"Dutch", being not well treated but we talk about foreigners on the whole...it is a shame. I am now a few years in Poland and have seen enough so it's good to have some talks with police officers in different cities starting in Lodz, Poznan, Warsawa etc and you wil hear what is happening to foreigners, students or not on regular basis...so I would say in this period of time it's very important to get the peoples of a country re-educated. It seems as everyone has forgotten Auschwitz, so they will try to diguise reality.
By Annie | 12 June 2012 3:16 PMi was in the nederland i am from poland and i had so much problem becouse of that , after some yers i can understand your language so "kut polse" or somethink like seems also not so nice so shut up nederlanders you are the same , we paying back
By krzysztof | 12 June 2012 11:42 PMBeing Polish, I'm realy ashamed of their behaviour, those brainless, frustrated monkeys should never be let in the stadiums (in fact lots of hooligans with history of trouble making are on black list and banned from matches), who let them out the zoo anyway? But to focus attention on the infamous who roughly constitiute 1-2% of the polish supporters is an exageration. When I think about Dutch I see open, friendly and inteligent people, not Gert-Wilders-buitenlander-hating type.
By klara | 13 June 2012 10:25 AMI'm from city Kharkiv, Ukraine. I want to say thank you to all holland fans that come to Kharkiv, they are very good and joyful fans and they gave our city a great holliday of football.All citizens of our city rooted for Holland team. I hope all fans that came to Kharkiv could see that all horror stories that were in Europian press about racism, crimes, prostitution they are not true. We are poor but friendly and civilized country. All citizens of Kharkiv tried to help and support all Holland Fans.
By Denis | 19 June 2012 2:12 PM