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Dutch still oppose Romania, Bulgaria Schengen zone entry

Friday 14 September 2012

The Netherlands remains opposed to Bulgaria and Romania joining the European Union’s open border area known as Schengen, the caretaker cabinet said in a briefing to MPs.

The cabinet was reacting to a new EU report on the progress both countries have made on reforming their legal systems and stamping out corruption.

In the statement, the cabinet says much progress has been made in both countries but more concrete results are needed to make sure the reforms are sustainable and irreversible.

Given current cabinet policy 'these reports show full membership of the Schengen zone for Romania and Bulgaria is not yet on the cards,' the briefing said.

The Dutch position also means a compromise proposal, which would allow passport-free travel through Romanian and Bulgarian airports and sea ports, will not be discussed at the September 20 meeting of European justice and home affairs ministers.


Are the Dutch right to take a tough line? Have your say using the comment box below.

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Readers' Comments

Yes. the Dutch cabinet is right.

By Romanian guy | 14 September 2012 8:10 AM

Yes! the Dutch cabinet is right. The EU has enough problems without adding extras.Tend to the home fronts and get things right here.

By Dee | 14 September 2012 8:43 AM

I agree, too much corruption......

By another romanian guy | 14 September 2012 9:03 AM

No, is not respecting the agreement regarding the MCV and the conditions imposed at the beggining. Therefore it should not request for additional conditions than the initial ones. Their position against Romania and Bulgaria to enter Schengen is at the moment not justified by anything.

By Romanian investor | 14 September 2012 9:14 AM

Strictly referring to critaeria for joining Schengen zone, NO, the Dutch cabinet is not right. This is because the corruption is not one of the critaeria. However, I understand why Dutch cabinet is acting this way.

By Max | 14 September 2012 9:47 AM

I totally respect your will and being Romanian i see more than any other EU country sees. Politicians are stealing contributors money, population is not educated and there are no signs of getting better, homeless dogs everywhere, corruption at the lowest level big time, in one word everybody wants to steal your money. A bunch of lazy and nasty people all dreaming at expensive cars and houses without any work.

So, if you want to be safe in EU close your border for Romanians and leave access with Visa only.

You have to sort someway decent people from bad people.

By Romanian leaving Romania | 14 September 2012 10:14 AM

Yes, the Dutch cabinet is right! I am a bulgarian and I can tell you that nothing good is happening in our political environment.

We need at least 20y of reformation in order to reach the Netherlands.

By Yes! | 14 September 2012 10:31 AM

yes, it is good to prevent the corrupted nations out of Schengen Area. The Netherlands has a good stand .

By vishnu | 14 September 2012 10:32 AM

I find it laughable that the Dutch government say its because theses countries are too corrupt while corruption In Holland is rife.Its really not too difficult to bribe the Dutch police..as long as you can afford it.The amount of times a cop has suggested that if i pay him for the bag of weed I just bought from a coffe shop he wont arrest me.

By jason buttle | 14 September 2012 11:37 AM

yeah right, corruption!
what about economical interests which Netherlands wants to get from both countries???
I assume Bulgaria and Romania didn't provide to NL enough economical opportunities so that NL would give up it's ridiculous ambitions.

By Plai cu Boi | 14 September 2012 12:28 PM

Corruption in the case of Bulgaria and Romania means anyone outside EU could potentially bribe the authorities to enter. So while they appear technically prepared, quite something needs to happen to completely eradicate the corruption there. I think they are not ready yet.

By George | 14 September 2012 12:51 PM

This decision is rooted in the fear of Roma / Gypsy uncontrolled immigration - a mobile minority in both countries. It makes no sense because whether in Schengen or not, it can't be controlled. The current public opinion sentiment against immigration and the right wing resurgence has more to do with immigration from outside Europe rather than immigration from these two countries.

In short, such a measure does nothing to address the issues that concern the Dutch voters. It's "security theater" at its best.

By Indelible Bonobo | 14 September 2012 1:07 PM

Also people seem to forget that only two months ago the European Commission made a very negative verdict about Romania and Bulgaria http://www.euronews.com/2012/07/18/five-years-after-eu-dream-romania-and-bulgaria-behind-on-reform/

By pepe | 14 September 2012 3:04 PM

Well, being in both sides of the wall... The Dutch cabinet is being stubborn on its decision but as a witness of the processes occurring, not the corruption and organized crime are the problem but the mentality of the people in the both above mentioned countries.

By Mufty | 14 September 2012 3:21 PM

Why is everyone repeating "yes because of corruption" as if they were a tape-recorder? What is the relevance of a corrupted STATE with providing to INDIVIDUALS the opportunity to compete for work on equal terms wherever they choose?

I was working for a Dutch consulting company that recently opened a branch in Romania. The average salary there is 500 euros a month while in Amsterdam it's 2000 euros. Could it be that the NL prefers to keep these employees there, working for 1/4 of the money, rather than having them coming here looking for jobs?

By Yorgos | 14 September 2012 4:12 PM

I must tell you that nobody cares about this Schengen story in Bulgaria, except some politicians who want to please their EU boses.We can travell free in EU, so why we need Schengen . The Dutch politicians are not better than bulgarian, just the same idiots.

By Bulgarian | 15 September 2012 9:20 PM

Hi,
Dutch still oppose Romania, Bulgaria Schengen zone entry. This is correct. One has to give these people more time to develop, corruption being the biggest problem.

By Terence Hale | 15 September 2012 9:47 PM

Yorgos, Bonobo - you must be confused about what the Schengen Area is for: "[...] operates very much like a single state for international travel with external border controls for those travelling in and out of the area, but with no internal border controls when travelling between Schengen countries." (Wikipedia)

This is about the ability to provide border control and security for the entire area. Romania and Bulgaria are fringe countries, so their role in this is of high importance.
It's not about workforce migration and whatever other issues may be present.

By Radu | 17 September 2012 9:40 AM

So when will be discussed then if was not 20th of September?

By Stefan | 21 September 2012 1:52 PM

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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