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Slap on wrist for police chief who says traffic fines are too highTuesday 15 January 2013 The police chief who said traffic fines are too high was slapped down on Tuesday afternoon by justice minister Ivo Opstelten. Opstelten said the Brabant commissioner should not interfer with the sanctions themselves, but just make sure they are carried out. 'Setting sanctions is for parliament and the state,' the minister is quoted as saying. Opstelten was reacting to a parliamentary question from Socialist MP Nine Kooiman, who shares police chief Hans Vissers' concern about the high level of the fines. Traffic Vissers told broadcasting company Omroep Brabant he thinks the fines are too high and this makes police officers reluctant to write tickets for traffic violations. 'His concern is not based on the facts,' Opstelten said. 'Lawbreakers themselves cite high fines as the most effective sanction against driving too fast.' He did agree to an analysis of the impact of the fines on road safety and police work before fines are raised again.
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Is this world controlled by money worshipping and anti families people? This guy can comment based on his capacity as a dutch citizen instead of police chief.
By ufo | 15 January 2013 3:58 PMI am surprised by the comments from the minister! His statement is equivalant to: a higher executive in a company saying to his managers, do not present your opinions, you dont worry about policies of the company, just carry out the strategy we put in place!!!
By Tarun Bansal | 15 January 2013 7:15 PMPolice chief did not present his opinion for something sensitive or something concerned with national security, so why he need to shut up?
'Lawbreakers themselves cite high fines as the most effective sanction against driving too fast.' That's a joke! I'm pretty sure that points on their driving licence would be even more effective. Then a potential ban from driving may slow them down. But, of course, more money from the driver is the driving force of the justice minister . . . . Not safety.
By Gary | 15 January 2013 8:37 PMwhy no one does like in the Nordish countried ( Finland-Sweden ecc...)
By plasmo | 15 January 2013 9:32 PMyou get a fine .....and the final amount is based on you annual incoming.
so poor peoples wont pay too much and rich peoples wont pay to less
but ...wait ....this is too smart , it can't be implemented :P
could it be that the issue is so sentitive, not because it is a safety issue but a revenue issue?
By Ron | 15 January 2013 9:56 PMI think Mr Opstelten is punching way above his weight....
By Marco | 15 January 2013 11:21 PMOf course he was "slapped down" - this police chief had the audacity to tell the truth, and put into jeopardy an important cash-cow. Fleecing the road user is an industry in itself.
This Opstelten says "lawbreakers" cite high fines as the most effective sanction. Granted, he accepts the advice of criminals on setting policy. But oddly enough, this didn't stop them becoming "lawbreakers", did it?
By glenn_uk | 16 January 2013 1:46 AMMoney continues to gain higher status all over the world, but not here. It's not possible anymore. Lonely top. And it is mirrored in legal system. I have a feeling that crimes which brought financial damage (except by bankers and polititians) are often punished harder than rape or even murder. And other way: hefty fine is considered as too tough punishment for "just" bringing in danger lives of people.
By Max | 16 January 2013 2:50 AMThe electronic road signs with speed flashing up plus happy/sad faces,and on dangerous corners 'you are driving too fast' work very well.Just from observation I notice that most drivers welcome the reminder and immediately cut their speed.Similar 'you are driving too close' and 'No horns please' signs would be good,giving people a reminder,and those that wish to persist deserve the fine.This way you are working towards safer roads and not towards filling the bank account.Perhaps the topic is not about the size of the fine,but the indiscriminate use of power to gain revenue.It is rarely the serial bad driver that gets targeted, they know where the cameras and traps are.
By jaycee | 16 January 2013 9:01 AM@Gary, I totally agree with you."points on their driving licence would be even more effective. Then a potential ban from driving may slow them down. But, of course, more money from the driver is the driving force of the justice minister . . . . Not safety."
By dee | 16 January 2013 10:04 AMI'm shocked the minister, in his capacity, said something like that. The Police Chief has the right to voice his opinion as a citizen and a road user, just like any other citizen does. If police officers feel the fines are too high, and therefore feel reluctant to issue them to traffic offenders, does that improve road saftey? You answer that, Mr. Minister.
By Jules | 16 January 2013 11:07 AMOpstelten blows more smoke at his dance partner as they remind the public of the bite in today's traffic tickets. Sounds about right. Shiver me timbers.
By Puck | 16 January 2013 12:34 PMThe Justice minister Ivo Opstelten, is driving the main issue away from the core issue the Police Chef meant. The Police Chef is referring to fines in general and not just over speeding. How can we justify a fine of EUR300 plus for parking at the invalid space.
By Donald Okeke | 16 January 2013 5:31 PMActually, Donald Okeke, a fine of €300 for parking at a place for the disabled is one of the most justified ones.
By pepe | 17 January 2013 10:19 AMPeople who park in clearly designated disabled bays need more than a €300 fine. Breaking their legs and refusing them a parking permit would be more effective, if slightly draconian.
By Roy | 17 January 2013 1:22 PM@pepe. Get real. Plowing through a red light. Not stopping at pedestrian crossings are far far worse. For sure parking in disabled spot is a problem, but it doesn't threaten lives.
By LOL | 17 January 2013 2:22 PMfines? You mean extortion?
By The visitor | 17 January 2013 10:52 PMYour are right LOL. People who cut furrows into soil around red lights are very inconsiderate. Plows should be left at the farm where they belong.
By Mr Me | 17 January 2013 10:57 PM@Mr Me. Hahaha. Made my morning! Thanks.
By LOL | 18 January 2013 8:45 AMGood to see someone with a sense of humour on these boards.