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Catholic priest vows to fight sacking for living with his girlfriendTuesday 06 December 2011 An 81-year-old Catholic priest, expelled from the priesthood because he lives with his 85-year-old girlfriend, says he will take his case to the European Court of Human Rights if necessary, Trouw reports on Tuesday. Jan Peijnenburg, who has lived with his girlfriend for 46 years, was sent a letter at the weekend telling him he has been suspended because he refuses to leave his partner. According to Trouw, the suspension will have little effect because Peijnenburg is retired and only rarely fulfills church duties. Forbidden Peijnenburg and his friends are now preparing legal action to find out 'if the rights of the church conflict with the rights of the citizen,' the NRC quotes him as saying. Rik Torfts, a professor in religious rights, told Trouw Peijnenburg has little chance of success because freedom of religion laws have priority over the right to marriage. A survey among Dutch priests last year showed four in 10 want to reopen the discussion on celibacy. Pamphlets Although other priests are known to live with partners, Peijnenburg was very open about his position and published pamphlets calling for an end to celibacy rules. ‘We cannot allow him to do that which is forbidden to others,’ spokesman Michiel Savelsbergh told news agency AFP last month. © DutchNews.nl
‘We cannot allow him to do that which is forbidden to others" By Wisdom | December 6, 2011 11:35 PM I am orthodox, a religion extremely close to catholicism. They have the same root and they separated due to some doctrine issues. Orthodox priests are married and in fact they must be married until they receive a parish. Only the monks are not married. It is normal, isn't it? And if you think that orthodox religion is unchanged for almost 1500 years! Seems more modern! By Lefty | December 7, 2011 7:01 AM The point of celibacy is that he is supposed to put his parish family first and to be available to them. By Anna | December 7, 2011 7:14 AM Frankly, it doesn't matter what you think about celibacy. He's a priest and it's part of the deal. Period, end of discussion. Besides, he has a moral responsibility to Catholics. By elleblue | December 7, 2011 7:43 AM I agree with elleblue. It is not a matter of agreeing or not with celibacy. Nobody obliged him to be a priest, he went for it he knew that he had to obey some rules, and one of them was celibacy. If he were serious, he would have quit his office when he realized that he was not complying with his "contract". Or he could become priest of a religion allowing marriage. It is simply a matter of being consistent. I know being consistent is not really popular nowadays but I am really expecting that at least from a priest. By joanna | December 7, 2011 8:16 AM I want to be muslim and eat pork. Should I be able to? It doesn't matter. If you join "club" with some rules set you must follow those rules regardless if it reasonable or not, or quit the "club". By Jet | December 7, 2011 10:13 AM If Jesus could travel openly with a select group of men... with one of them described as his 'lover'... then why not a priest with a heterosexual lover? By Don Prange | December 7, 2011 12:50 PM Moral responsibility to Catholics? Part of who’s deal? End of discussion? Only an end for ignorant people who refuse to see the real truth. The priest's only moral obligation to Catholics or anyone in his parish is to teach God's scriptures without having to give up his own human rights. Or would you rather be taught by some inhuman machine. If it’s so wrong to be in love then why wasn't celibacy enforced from the very beginning? A shame that overly religious Catholics would rather believe foolish man-made rules some decided to change long ago. Have to wonder what these Catholics would say if someone one day changes everything in the Bible to suit their ideology. By Wisdom | December 7, 2011 3:33 PM
By Skylar | December 7, 2011 3:51 PM Skylar, Wisdom, DonPrague... By joanna | December 8, 2011 10:23 AM joanna: "pick organized religion whose rules are fine with your life style" By Skylar | December 8, 2011 6:04 PM If you're an atheist, why do you even care if others stand up for their human rights? Are you human? I’ll stand up for this priest any day as he didn’t need the church’s blessing to remain faithful to his girlfriend of 46 yrs. Most religious people can’t say that of their marriage vows. God blessed them for 46 yrs. His commitment to her and his parishioners as a Catholic priest is what’s important. He wasn't doing evil deeds with young boys destroying their lives and the reputation of the Catholic Church. By Marion | December 8, 2011 6:36 PM Resist organized religion, and you resist one of the greatest forces of evil in history. I believe in God but don’t need idiotic rules to dictate personal choices in life. Religious people tend to be the most bigoted and non-accepting people on earth. They’re the least trustworthy and pretend they’re doing good, but they’re really collaborators in a system designed to push people into unconscious slavery to a higher authority. By Diana | December 8, 2011 7:23 PM
By Wisdom | December 8, 2011 9:47 PM Frankly my dear 'elleblue' it does matter what other people think about celibacy, etc. Its people like you who don’t understand about positive change. He is a priest but he is first a “man” with human needs. Are you a nun? A great visionary once said... -Steve Jobs- “Don't be trapped by dogma-which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. Most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. People, who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do. They push the human race forward. By Katie | December 8, 2011 10:18 PM Skylar: what Church did when covering up those abuses is digusting. Though there is no scientific evidence that celibacy leads to child-abuse or rape, I agree with you that if priests could have a sexual life perhaps all those things had not happened. Said that, there are million of catholics who are married and still are "serving" God, but they cannot call themsleves priests. By joanna | December 9, 2011 10:28 AM Wisdom, I have broken rules in my life, but your example with the stealing from the office does not work (btw people are sacked for that reason if caught). By joanna | December 9, 2011 10:31 AM joanna: The point was that rules set long ago might need to be changed as society changes. Forward -not backwards as our economy is doing now. If rules were followed the EU, US, etc. wouldn't be in the mess they are in now. Rules can be changed if one looks at things from outside the box and not from one view. History repeats itself when people use the same level of awareness which created the problem. He is 81 yrs old - was open about his relationship with this woman so it was common knowledge long ago. May luck be on his side to change the rules for others who desire priesthood without having to give up their human rights By Wisdom | December 9, 2011 6:01 PM
By Skylar | December 9, 2011 6:43 PM Life will always be a hall of learning. Many follow old rules out of ignorance and are afraid of change. Don’t succumb to living in the beliefs of some who confine free thinking. We should always be open to change. May God’s blessings always shine upon you Fr. Jan Peijnenburg. And may it be one day said, that out of many stood one who made a difference... By Peter | December 9, 2011 7:07 PM A bit extreme sacking someone who inadvertently takes a pen or notepad from work.0= I do it many times - Never know when the big boss will call after hours - to take a quick memo or set up some appointments before he gets in the office. Should demand over-time as stated in our employee handbook. Yeah, I might be sacked if I made my employer adhere to his own rules. ;( By nicole | December 9, 2011 9:51 PM Celibacy mandated by the Council of Nicaea, 325 (Canon 3). Eastern rites broke away at the Quinsext council of 692 which was never accepted as ecumenical by the Latin rite west. Clerical celibacy goes back right to the beginning. To state it was a medieval 'invention' or that it was first promulgated by the papacy is quite false. The 1135 Lateran council merely reinforced the rule in the face of laxity. Celibacy is the rule of the 'club'. By London | December 9, 2011 10:26 PM joanna "Would you get a job in company whose ethics is 100% against yours?" By Wisdom | December 10, 2011 12:58 PM What about God part in preists who find themselves in love. God's greatest gift and they are supposed to ignore it? Throw it away. As much as rules are set in every 'club' you can not compare a club to a religion that your whole value systems is shaped around. I think we make rules and God laughs. By das ist | December 17, 2011 4:41 PM
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I'm Catholic, have been my whole life, and frankly, I've ALWAYS believed that the celibacy rules were stupid and unnatural. I think that Holy Mother the Church could dispense with a whole lot of scandal if she would just join the real world and let priests marry just like normal people.
By The Cat Lady | December 6, 2011 9:26 PM