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Dutch state taken to UN human rights commission over Wilders

Thursday 17 November 2011

Three Dutch Moroccans have made a complaint against the Netherlands to the UN commission for human rights, claiming the Dutch state has not protected them from incitement to hatred instigated by Geert Wilders, Nos television reports.

The three, who are not named in the court filing, say the ‘systematic incitement to hatred and discrimination against Muslims and other migrants’ committed by Wilders has left them feeling ‘discriminated against, humiliated and threatened’.

‘They are of the opinion that Wilders by his continued hate speech has poisoned the social climate in the Netherlands that has become more and more anti-migrant and anti-Muslim,’ the statement says.

Wilders was taken to court for discrimination and inciting hatred last year but found not guilty this spring after the public prosecution department called for all charges to be dropped.

One-sided

The reluctance of the public prosecutor to take action against Wilders meant the ‘judge [at that trial] was only provided with one side of the legal argument due to the almost perfect harmony between the prosecution and defence,’ the UN filing states.

The three say international human rights treaties should protect them against discrimination and the UN commission should ensure those treaties are upheld.

A UN human rights commission ruling, which can take years, is not legally binding, Nos says.

The full text of the filing (in English) can be read here

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Readers' comments (29)

Though they will get nowhere (I think), they are making a point, and that is important. I support them!

By Leon | November 17, 2011 3:57 PM


Sorry Holland but you had this coming it's gonna take years to shake of this racist image you have developed in a few short years.

By Jason | November 17, 2011 4:02 PM


About time! I admire their courage and whilst not muslim, understand how they feel to be constantly belittled and made to feel a second class citizen for being a buitenlander!

By Steve | November 17, 2011 4:50 PM


Was it really worth it Mr. Wilders? Verbal harassing others to get elected at the cost of ruining your country's prestige?

By david | November 17, 2011 5:43 PM


more international reputational damage for the Netherlands? once known as a tolerant liberal country until...well, you know the rest.
should be a relatively easy win for the complaintants.

By Bill | November 17, 2011 5:45 PM


Wilders made his career by speaking his mind. He made a good start but uses no diplomacy. I stopped my support when he suggested a 'hooftdoek verbot' (Ban on women wearing head scarves.)During the 60's head scarves were fashionably worn by women of all ages.

I realize he is nationalistic, but can no longer support a politician with such little feeling for HUMAN BEINGS! sorry to say this but he would have been better suited to Germany during WW2, sorry Geert, you went to far, get a haircut!

By The visitor | November 17, 2011 7:32 PM


There will be more charges against The Netherlands because of Wilders, this is only the beginning. NL will face charges soon in regards to its antiquated electoral laws that are simply undemocratic. The PVV is a one-member party with no membership say or votes, its' leader (Wilders) has the only say and he choses candidates, including from non-members.

By Donny vdH | November 17, 2011 11:53 PM


I can't believe the response of your country to the threat of Islamists. With only a small percent of european population, they have made 'no go zones' and sharia law almost normal. Your country will end up in the toilet and unfortunately you will deserve it. Wilders is right on! From me in Canada

By John S. | November 18, 2011 12:14 AM


Geert Wilders has spoken out against an intolerant philosophy and has been threatened with death for doing so. The three Muslim Morrocans are not showing any courage as they are not being threatened. They are showing their lack of tolerance however by taking offense at what was said and using their host countrys own tolerance against it instead of examining and bringing any logical debate to the table.

By Harry | November 18, 2011 12:28 AM


Everybody has the right to their opinion.Some muslims have the crazy idea that non muslims should be killed.I say why can`t we all live peacefully.

By Gerrit Zawiolkowski | November 18, 2011 1:49 AM


I am so happy to hear this. I applaud the 3 people doing this, and would like to offer my utmost support. Well done! After almost 10 years of constant harassment of foreigners, all of us should really take a stand, whether we are Muslim or not. What happens to one, happens to all...

By Quest | November 18, 2011 2:06 AM


hmmm Since when was the Dutch State or any other government for that matter responsible for the feelings of its residents? Aren't individuals accountable for their own feelings? Did the Dutch government also fail to protect Theo van Gough's feelings? Mr. Wilder's feelings must surely be hurt by his need for protection from the many threats to his life. Those making the complaint about being subjected to discrimination and hatred because of Mr.Wilder's speech seem to have a weaker case than Mr.Wilders himself.

By HB | November 18, 2011 4:00 AM


When talking about feeling discriminated against, you should refer to historical documents written by islamic authors, here is one..
http://www.dhimmitude.org/archive/by_lecture_10oct2002.htm

By Robert | November 18, 2011 5:03 AM


The Netherlands have historically been an inclusive country. If Wilders has been making false statements that is quite different from speaking the truth, which is what he appears to have been doing.Intimidation is an integral part of this specious complaint. Islamic countries do not allow free speech at all, whereas the Netherlands has always done so.

By D Stevens | November 18, 2011 7:11 AM


Sometimes on an article like his you getcomments that the Netherlands is no longer a tolerant liberal country... Well, it was this type of ultra-liberal tolerance that opened the door for problems and brought a rise to politicians like Wilders who feel that particularly tolerant immigration policies... spawned an increase of people that did not seek integration and gave rise to increased crime... Very liberal policies seem to only work if the population plays by accepted societal standards by that country.When you introduce increased populations that do not abide by these or even work against it, failure is inevitable.

By bet | November 18, 2011 7:49 AM


OIC & UN vs. freedom of speech

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/gashc3966.doc.htm

UN Blasphemy law: Third Committee Approves Resolution Aimed at ‘Combating Defamation of Religions’

...the fight against terrorism, defamation of religions and incitement to religious hatred (i.e. telling the truth cf. Quran & ahadith Sahih) ... denial of fundamental rights and freedoms of members of target groups (e.g. JihadWatch.org), as well as their economic and social exclusion....

By Stephanie | November 18, 2011 7:58 AM


I wonder how long before sanctions are placed on the Netherlands and other countries stops trade with this country that has lost it´s reputation all over the world? See if anyone votes for pvv when they are hurting financially. Pvv lost my vote after they refused Mauro a residence permit, and after Wilders turned against Greece. Wilders has lost touch with reality.

By sandraV | November 18, 2011 8:01 AM


This is ridiculous, Mr. Wilders has never insulted a muslim or incited hatred against them.
He merely wishes to help them to adjust to life here in the west where women's hair is not considered an incitement to rape and both men and women are equal - regardless of ethnicity.
These men see their claims to superiority over their women and their special victim status challenged by Mr. Wilders opinions. While I disagree with Mr. Wilders assessment of the role of christianity and Judaism in our Europe, I do not consider his remarks to be worthy of violence or prosecution.

By gsw | November 18, 2011 8:58 AM


The colonization by the Dutch many decades ago in some parts arround the world have left an imprint of its culture however mostly have disappeared because nationalistic movement after gaining independence. The comers/settlers in the Netherlands also imprinted their rooted culture. Some of the movements by Geerts Wilders have the same objectives, it is also a nationalistic movement except the country has already been independent.

By losbanos | November 18, 2011 10:22 AM


It was the US who started the war against Islam (euphemistically called "war on terror"). So I find it rather amusing that there are Americans in the above comments supporting this. If there is one country that should be on trial it is the US.

By tim | November 18, 2011 7:42 PM


To set the record straight Holland as always been a racist society.
I am a Dutch citizen by birth but I do have some Indonesian blood.
In 1946 we were forced to leave Indonesia, because I happened to be born as a blonde and because of this we were almost killed by the Indonesians so we came to Holland, and we were discriminated again now by the Dutch, because of our skin color and our culture, especially our food, because the smell was offensive.
Unlike the Dutch Indos, Morrocans were welcomed with open arms.
So if they have a beef with the Dutch,
they have an option and can go back. My family did not have that.

By ilse | November 19, 2011 7:34 AM


@gsw: "He merely wishes to help them to adjust to life here" for example with a "rag tax"?
@Harry "The three Muslim Morrocans are not showing any courage as they are not being threatened". So if you see someone beating or killing someone else you will not report it because you have not been threatened?
@bet: NL has never been tolerant but only indifferent, that is why this problem emerged. True tolerance entails respect of others, not an apartheid
@John S: I don't see what sharia has to do with anything here.

By Leon | November 19, 2011 9:45 AM


Tim: Correction- The US and Britain. The war on terror and supposed stock piles of mass destructive weapons became merely a war fighting for the control of oil. Former Pres. George Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair should both be put on trial. They both made millions from reconstruction contracts that were never started nor completed. Several Bush family members were the building contractors hired to do the work in these war zone areas. The US has also opened themselves up to the problems they’re facing today.

By maria | November 19, 2011 1:01 PM


I don't agree with the tone of some of Mr. Wilders talks, but I think the right of free speech triumphs the right of people not to feel emotionally hurt. If he were acting with physical violence, I'd say he should be stopped, but merely speaking out words... it a right that shall not be restricted.

By Andre L. | November 19, 2011 1:16 PM


gsw, do you consider calling their Holy Koran evil and similar to Mein Kampf to not be insulting? Wilders tried to pull this one over people before, he argued that he does not insult or have any issues with "muslims" but considers the Koran as trash, hate-inspiring and evil. He carefully avoids the point that with no Koran there is no Muslims.

The reality is, and even Dutch lawyers have noted this fact, that if Wilders lived in any other country than The Netherlands he would have been fined, banned from politics or even imprisoned. Dutch laws allows the formation of a one-member party (the PVV is just that) and allows such hate-speech. Time to modernise Dutch laws.

By Donny vdH | November 19, 2011 3:01 PM


One thinks what one wants about Geert Wilders, but he channels islamo-skepticism into a peaceful track. Reactions are becoming more and more agressive:
In order to prevent a Swiss mosque being built, pieces of pork have been scattered or buried in the ground

In Spain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4efflXQP0
In France
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir2CVORbo8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXcllu9T_kg
A sport getting accrued interest; burning or sullying a koran
http://rutube.ru/tracks/4984540.html?v=3c23879c84188cd9658fc3e3dc543c80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSavdgs-RbU&feature=related
Spreading in Denmark:
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=1558665.0

A "euro-regionalist" group, the "Bloc Identitaire" had broadcast the muezzin call to waken up the inhabitants of a neighbourhood of Bordeaux and warn them about the project of a mosque building:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqY2vBOEt0

Moderators, even if you are censoring, my message is spreading thanks to other webmasters who know what freedom of opinion means

By Frog | November 19, 2011 7:57 PM


The simple truth is that these people should return to their own countries. They should not be in the Netherlands in the first place.
Wilders is anti-Dutch as he calls for integration. True and loyal Dutchmen call for repatriation.

By Simon Dean | November 20, 2011 12:08 PM


@gsq, bet - Could not have agreed more guys. Very well penned thoughts. I am also an outsider. I can for 2 years but I felt this one country is totally liberal. But there is not enough from people to get integrated to this great culture. They keep themselves to their own culture. This wont happen. You wnat the best from this country and also want to disgrace it. Com'on guys. Give respect to NL. And what Mr. Gilders is saying, i also agree. Integrate first. Else it will become another sharia dominated country in no time.

By sup | November 20, 2011 1:06 PM


After the Arab spring the Islamic winter!the Dutch ethos is one of personal rsponsibility, what we called the Protestant Ethic(though now secular) is one of honesty, truth and striving to do better from your own efforts - it works! Muslims are victims of Islam. A faith that removes all personal responsibility, everything happens by the will of Allah. This has resulted in impoverished nations looking for others to blame. There is not one Muslim country that could be considered a model for the rest of the world. Sorry but true.

By Simon Scarth | December 12, 2011 11:45 AM



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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