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Employers prefer native Dutch workers 'to avoid problems'Tuesday 07 September 2010 Employers are more likely to choose an ethnic Dutch worker over someone with a minority background because they believe they are the safest choice and less likely to cause problems, the government's socio-cultural planning office SCP says in a new report. By giving a job to a native Dutch person, 'they think they are less likely to be confronted with unexpected problems such as language difficulties and long holidays,' the SCP says in its latest Discrimination Monitor, published on Tuesday. In addition, employers sometimes exclude ethnic minority staff because they could dominate the workforce or cause divisions between other groups, the report says. The research is based on over 100 interviews with employers, staffing agencies and jobless organisations as well as an assessment of discrimination complaints. Earlier research has shown non-western immigrants in the Netherlands are more likely to be unemployed than the native Dutch and are less likely to have a permanent job, even if they have the same education, qualifications and experience. People of Turkish and Surinamese origin are viewed more positively than those from the Antillean islands or Morocco, the researchers say, adding that media coverage of the latter groups has played a role in this. Interviews Non-western job applicants are also more likely to sell themselves short at interviews. Language problems, modesty and a reluctance to sell themselves also affects their chances of being offered a job. And distinctive dress, such as wearing a headscarf or having a beard, can also play a role, particularly in jobs where client contact is important, the report states. Anti discrimination bureaus deal with an average of 405 complaints about work-related discrimination on the grounds of ethnicity or religion a year. © DutchNews.nl
Please, the discrimination monitor's ways-of-working are both misreported in your article, as being downright discriminatory in themselves. By Noel McCullagh MA | September 7, 2010 10:28 AM The present political atmosphere in the country partialized not only the employers but almost all sectors of the dutch society. The already scared dutch were pushed further and once can notice this in day to day life. From tram conductor to onward, you can observe this. On one hand the government is opting for the immigration of highly skilled immigrants and on the other hand, the employers are repeling the highly skilled immigrants. The problem is not beard, or headscarf. The only problem is discrimation, which will take the dutch society into a coma. By J.Khan | September 7, 2010 11:16 AM Wait until they found about the Western European expats. Most of my non-Dutch colleagues did drugs, at work. Some got caught, some didn't. Sadly, for to many come for the weed and couldn't care two cents about their job they should actually be happy to have. By Dr. W | September 7, 2010 11:27 AM I'm also curious as to the experiences of a person of colour living here but born and raised in a so-called western country. Or do they not exist either?
By CW | September 7, 2010 11:40 AM "And western immigrants? Or don't we exist again? Mot all people here from western countries are expats here on work assignments. And some are having problems finding jobs too..." may be it's about time to get some degrees and skills and not just think that you are so called western immigrant and therefore you'll not face the same difficulties as any other By wouter | September 7, 2010 1:50 PM Strange, at our global company it is exactly the opposite. we prefer to hire non native Dutch employees, as they cause far less problems, they are not 'sick' nearly as often as the Dutch are and produce more work, more efficiently working less hours on each project. The Dutch employees find every reason to come late, leave early, stay home with their child, etc - and not reach their targets By Jeff | September 7, 2010 2:02 PM Sorry Wouter, I don't understand your comment. My point is that Western immigrants are never surveyed and their opinions are never sought. It's assumed that we are all highly paid expats here in the country temporarily and not a "problem". By CW | September 7, 2010 2:10 PM I think I get your point now, Wouter. In response, I would like to say that "unqualified for a work permit" is NOT the same as "uneducated". Many immigrants -- both western and non-western -- are highly educated, just not in fields that are in high-demand...ie, fields other than engineering and IT. Nurses, social workers, teachers, even lawyers...none qualifies for a work permit here. Would you consider them "uneducated"? Perhaps some Dutch should get out more and meet some real immigrants. By CW | September 7, 2010 2:30 PM Our company also prefers to employ non native Dutch as they are less likely to be chronically ill and have no problems doing overtime when required. By Tom | September 7, 2010 3:09 PM look up definitions of 'western' and 'non-western' on CBS website - they are as arbitrary as they are meaningless; that is why all those statistical reports do not make much practical sense and only leave readers confounded about the purpose thereof By MV | September 7, 2010 4:17 PM If all "minorities" leave the country it would come to an economic halt ! By tom | September 7, 2010 4:49 PM Hmaney Jeff...got any vacancies?? As an englishman over here, with good dutch language skills and a degree plus experience and I am still losing out to lesser skilled native dutch but hey thats life when you are a stranger in a strange land...(ps i still love it here!!!) By Sean | September 7, 2010 4:49 PM don't get me started with the 30% ruling... to this date I have not seen a single expat that has skills that cannot be readily found in Holland... and for those that have it - how many knew about that ruling BEFORE coming to Holland? By Rto | September 7, 2010 7:33 PM the main reason why the NL has managed to attract so many multinationals to set up their EMEA headquarters here is precisely the availability of a multicultural, mobile workforce. Take the 30% tax ruling away and in a few years you will see all those companies resettle elsewhere, shedding Dutch jobs in the process. By SJF | September 7, 2010 10:36 PM Please let me know the name of those companies (that prefer foreign people)!! I'm a certified IT technician and everywhere I go "first you must learn the language"... result: I'm dishwashing. By Daniel | September 8, 2010 12:18 AM Rto, what I noticed in a place where I am working ( tu delft)is that, the number of graduates each year doesn't meet the demand from the industry outside. The last couple of years, if u seethe number of Dutch students as compared to the international ones, the Dutch seem way too much a minority. And most graduates secure a job easily not because they are super talented but just because there are few Dutch graduates to meet the industry demand. By Andres | September 8, 2010 12:51 AM Definition of western and non-western is a joke in NL. All EU countries, Russia, Ukraine is Western, Turkey which is a member of all European Assocciations except EU, which is geographically more western than Russia or even Cyprus, is non-western. Dutch Antills in Caribbean Sea is non-western, but Japan is western (rest of the world "strangely" call them far east :), Dutch knows better) By Oz | September 8, 2010 4:27 PM Daniel>>> I'm actually trying to find a job dishwashing!! My language skills are only at niveau 2+, so an office job is out of the question. I can't even get a dishwashing job! I'm a 47 yr old woman, here since 2004 and haven't worked here yet! Now reading that employers aren't interested at all in the non-dutch born, I think I'm royally screwed. By Lisa | September 8, 2010 5:36 PM Hi, I am an international student and I must say that the number of Dutch students compared with international ones is still higher, thus I would not say that the Dutch students are minority. At least not here in the north of Holland. I must say that perhaps the reason why the industry demand for Dutch workforce is not met sufficiently because what I have observed is that Dutch students generally stay longer in college/university, and extend their study for whatever reasons. More studiefinanciering, yet less graduate flow. Maybe I could be wrong, but then again I'm just a foreign student observing the Dutch students' ethics and will for studying. By Ernesto Heisenberg | September 9, 2010 11:40 AM I sense a mix up between 30% rule and graduates. Foreign graduates can get a Knowledge Migrant visa to work here, but for the 30% ruling a candidate needs an extensive CV with both education and years of relevant experience to qualify. They are not mutual criteria - a Uni leaver will usually fail to go instantly into a job which attracts the 52% tax bracket, which unsuprisingly is similar to the qualifying salary for the 30% rule. By osita | September 9, 2010 9:54 PM
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And western immigrants? Or don't we exist again?
Mot all people here from western countries are expats here on work assignments. And some are having problems finding jobs too...
By CW | September 7, 2010 8:27 AM