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The Christian Democrat chairman is a whiner, says Geert WildersThursday 26 August 2010 Geert Wilders, leader of the anti-Islam PVV who is currently in talks on drawing up new government policy with the Christian Democrats and VVD, has called the CDA chairman 'an enormous whiner' on the micro blogging service Twitter. Wilders was responding to Henk Bleker's appearance on a tv talk show on Wednesday night in which he said the new government must unify rather than divide society, and that the PVV must accept that fact. 'Can't the CDA chairman Bleker go on holiday or something. What an enormous whiner,' wrote Wilders. 'And let's make it quite clear, the PVV does not have to do anything.' The CDA and VVD are hoping to form a minority government which will be supported by the PVV in parliament. But many CDA members, including a string of former prime ministers, are opposed to striking any deal with the PVV, which wants to ban the Koran, close Islamic schools and bring in ethnic registration. © DutchNews.nl
"Don't have to to anything" , means "ik moet niks", which also means "it's not my problem"... sounds familiar? "Ik moet niks" and "it's not my problem" is also what (only moroccam?) trouble youth say... where did they learn it, I wonder? At least Geert makes clear where Dutch society is going By dvd | August 26, 2010 10:22 AM 'a string of former prime ministers, are opposed to striking any deal with the PVV, which wants to ban the Koran, close Islamic schools and bring in ethnic registration.' By zenplus | August 26, 2010 1:11 PM How embarrassing that Wilders, a government representative, uses school yard language to describe his colleagues, in public no less. He and his ilk have caused no end of worry for those of us from other countries who have chosen to live in the Netherlands. I might have a university degree, pay top end taxes, volunteer and give back to my local Dutch community and raising two good Dutch children here- but- I am still a "stranger" and am directly impacted by all the bigotry which he espouses for this government- even though I am not dark skinned. By Janne | August 26, 2010 5:16 PM How strange that a serious politician could even consider talking to or attempting to accomodate a man who wanted to impliment a tax on headscarfs (though of course this IS Holland, if it moves.....),or introduce ethnic registration (NAZIISM!!).Has this once tolerant country sunk so low? I don't care if people voted for Wilders, his values are from the gutter- and should be left there.It's the 21st century, it's the European Union...need I say more? By Edward Ka-Spel | August 26, 2010 6:14 PM Isn't milord’s choice of words exemplary of the undertones of deep-seated racism embellished upon its ilk and all that spews forth from its farcical facial orifice? By Noel McCullagh | August 26, 2010 6:55 PM I do agree with DVD's view dated August 26th.2010 in that as least Gert Wilders had made known his party's stand to the Dutch electorate and whether the Dutch electorates agreed or disagreed,please refer to the results of the recent election. By ericrufinosiah | August 27, 2010 2:46 AM Eric, the results of the election meant that Wilders and his one man party received 3 out of every 20 votes cast. He is not the peoples champion by any means: he does NOT represent the views of 85% of the voting Dutch public. He is in no position to shout the odds like a school bully - and that sadly is a stage of his life from which he never progressed. By osita | August 27, 2010 10:31 AM People attempting to demonise Wilders never address his core message. He is not a nazi or a fascist, he is an enraged liberal. Islam really is repressive and totalitarian. Wilders uses the occasional unfortunate phrase.. but so what! By Ralph | August 29, 2010 1:11 PM History repeating itself! Unfortunately Muslims good and bad have become the new Jews of Europe alongside the Roma people! And a man shall come forward to unite the ethnic white populations of Europe and Hitler shall be re-born! The snowball has already started rolling gathering speed and force, BNP, EDL, Geert Wilder’s, Sarkozy, Jean-Marie Le Pen and many others, this is a force that will not be stopped until Europe is again on fire. The Muslim women who wear the burka do not do there communities any good, rather they show a message to the outside world that they are different, that they do not wish for full integration into western society that in fact, they prefer separation. The death, fire, and destruction of communities I speak of is just around the corner. If any politician is reading this my advice is stop being so politically correct, stop all further immigration from South Asia before it's to late. By Fredrick | August 29, 2010 11:07 PM I do not believe that Geert is a nazi or a fascist!He is as you say Ralph an enraged liberal, Geert has an honesty about him that I like, more should follow his train of thought if europe is to be saved. By Fredrick | August 30, 2010 3:22 PM To suppose that (classical) Liberal principles oppose opposition to groups of people, is ridiculous and contradictory. Ridiculous, because Liberalism opposes fascists and communists. Contradictory, because this self-styled "Liberal" stigmatizes an entire group of people, to wit, Geert Wilders and his supporters. By kevin bjornson | August 30, 2010 9:01 PM The Dutch may be famous for tolerance, but they never were known to be fools or doormats. There is a colloquial expression in the US "like a Dutch uncle" - someone who would take the dreamer aside and tell him the unvarnished truth. The truth is rarely politically correct. By Janka | August 30, 2010 9:58 PM Right, Faten, Eric, Ralph, Fredrick, I totally agree, rare, brave honesty, spoke clearly, utterly fair. He is compassionate. I don't understand how liars call him these names. Only thing I know is when they cannot find anything legitimate to criticise, they use nasty slurs that make no sense. "Resort is had to ridicule when reason is against us". the thing that really bothers him is that he is nothing of a Nazi, and is about as far away from right-wing as possible. (less taxes, if that makes him right, alright. Wasting too many people's money on harmful futile foolish endeavors is wrong.) Not a bigot or anything close. All for oppressed people of all kinds. Now, particularly pressing, the natives. By ingrid | August 30, 2010 11:00 PM Lets call this man on some of his more outrageous statements "Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim" really? So the IRA, Basque Separatists and for that matter Timmothy McVeigh were Muslim. The suicide belt was invented by Hindu Tamil Tigers and before that there were Kamikazes. The man is peddling an urban myth, call him on it or people will think its true. By Kevin Walsh | August 30, 2010 11:11 PM To call him any of those things, perversely malicious. Why would anyone do that? He is trying to work on their behalf! To restore Dutch safety and defend their freedom to be free! Get real about the Nazi slur, reality is needed here. DUH... Nazis share brotherhood with Islamics. totalitarianist doctrines. Both are lovers of cruelty and operate on the principle of complete destruction of the dissenting, trusting and the weak. Where did so many high-level Nazis run to at end of WWII? Arab countries! Home to Islam. That's right...get a grip, people, this slur is so stupid, but vicious and cheap, gets attention, but is hatefully untrue. Nazis are a brotherhood with Islamics, same hatred for humanity, same goal. By ingrid | August 30, 2010 11:21 PM Ingrid, there is a saying 'Those who forget the past are bound to repeat it.' Your Geert has already sacrificed his economic policies to further his self-publicity: where is the champion of the retirement age? He's already forgotten it because economics never really mattered to him ;) Is your Geert representing you right now, in Dutch parliament? No, he's representing himself in any country that will listen to his anti-muslim rhetoric. 85% of dutch voters always knew this. By osita | August 31, 2010 10:42 AM Kevin Walsh: If you are going to quote someone make sure the quote is accurate.Geert said that it is a fact that not all Muslims are terrorists but it is also a fact that the majority of terrorists are Muslim!That is a fact of life none of us can shove under the carpet and hope it will go away.If we wanted to import skills into europe why did not succesive governments take advantage of a skilled labour force from Christian countries the Philippines is one example,English speaking virtualy same culture? These people want to fit in and intergrate fully, there culture is the same as the West because of American rule for 50 years! By Fredrick | August 31, 2010 2:52 PM Ingrid@ In the time of Nazis; Pop supported Nazis, alot of Muslim lands support UK, even my Uncle fought for UK and he die. Today's Islam is polluted by westeren policitions as in 1980s they supported Taliban & all other extremists groups from all over the world. I really do not understand why people just blame Islam why they do not look in their homes. What US did in Iraq on the name of Sadam or for Oil, & what Europeans did on the name of colonization. Have u ever read that crual face of "European colonization"? By Meh | August 31, 2010 2:56 PM I cannot understand the people who are taking the things that Geert Wilders says, so much out of context. Is it that they agree with the elites who want to stop the freedom of speech in the Netherlands. I have always looked up to the Dutch because they were such a fair minded country. The things that Geert Wilders says is direct, honest, and easily understood by the majority of people. He is passionate about his love for his country and its freedom. Do those who oppose him not see what is happening throughout Europe??? It is even beginning to happen here in Canada.. When will the West finally wake up and see the truth for what it really is. By agr | August 31, 2010 7:16 PM My, my, a lot of strong Anti Islam views here..No wonder Wilders is doing so well. If you take anything from this charade, please take the following; What goes around comes around. If you start to demonize and stigmatize a whole people and their religion then do not be surprised if it happens to you. Those who cleverly think Wilders is doing a good thing, how would he maintain relationships and Trade with Muslim countries? I forgot, the NL is self sufficient and does not need any Muslim countries. You enjoyed cheap labour and bringing uneducated Muslims (Morrocans) to do your dirty jobs in the past, same for France, Spain. Italy, UK...Now reap the rewards of failed and racist integration. By Saladin | September 1, 2010 11:34 AM Geert Wilders is against fascism, against totalitarian tyranny and is fighting it, more than any other man is. Why don't you appreciate that? He hasn't forgotten anything, Osita. But necesity has forced him to divert most of his attention to this threat from both Islam to his country, and from his country (governmental & judicial corruption)so the retirees will be safer, as every free native Dutch person should be. Not like it is now. Yes, Geert Wilders speaks for me and mine. And all my friends, they love freedom and hate tyrannical and cowardly brutal practices. Doesn't he speak for you? By Ingrid | September 1, 2010 7:43 PM so the main issue is our safety, the citizen's safety and rights, and he is being forced to defend his own right of freedom to speak about his concern, express his dissent and report the facts of the Quran in Muslims' own voices, as he did in Fitna. He has not chosen to have to focus on a trial over his right to freedom of speech. If the court were just, they would uphold his right to make a documentary film which is in no way inciteful of hatred unless it is the Quran and Muslims who are charged with inciting hatred. By Ingrid | September 1, 2010 7:56 PM Geert Wilders is against violence. That's why he is defending his people and his country and his right to oppose it. Can we get a grip, people. Please? Stop the Prozac and Coca Cola finally, so you can think on your own without being dutiful obedient robotic parrots of the politically tyrannical. By Ingrid | September 1, 2010 7:59 PM Meh, it is true what you say about supporting Saddam Hussein, who then destroyed the Kurds & terrorised,killed his own Iraqis. Evil greed causes so much misery. Man's inhumanity to man is horrendous, and we (European and Americans) are also guilty of that, which is all horrible; but those were various people in power who were greed-driven, this Islamic threat to free people is driven by an entire ideology, Islamic doctrine, to destroy all the others. If you do know your Quran, it is horrible. Our American government treated the Native people here abominably, but that was not due to a world-destroying doctrine which says to destroy all infidels. Grant did not agree. I am ashamed of what they did. By Ingrid for Meh, above | September 1, 2010 9:16 PM People have to stick up for other people, their lives, when they are threatened. No matter if their land looks good to them, or their god says for them to kill them all. By Ingrid for Meh, above | September 1, 2010 9:19 PM Europe must shake off its dependence on a Muslim labor force. I think this is achievable. There are plenty of hard-working enthusiastic and civilized people from eastern Europe, including Russia, Ukraine, and the Balkans who can come to W.Europe instead of Muslims. I don't think Holland is dependent on trade with Muslim countries. Islamic finance is a joke. There are other European sources of oil (Statoil,etc.) Instead of letting in so many lazy folks from these countries, let's encourage democratic reform in the Middle East so that these countries' living conditions improve and their people actually wish to stay there! And what is going on about all this hyper-paranoia about racism going around these days? what happened to honest discussion? By Crusader | September 1, 2010 9:34 PM Geert Wilders should be sacked, immediatly, he says that most terrorists are muslims. The common definition of terrorists are to strike fear into a group of peoples heart. Right, so no one has ever been unneadingly racists to black, we treated them as slaves, and still when they weren't slaves anymore they had almost no rights, do you guys know what the cluckcloo clan did (bad spelling) they killed blacks. They scared the heck out of them. But these days, do we ever look at them as terrorists? no we point it all on the muslims, islams, just like hitler did. He needed a scapegoat so he pointed it at some small ethnic group, jews. By An angry me | September 2, 2010 7:50 AM I dont like Wilders and his ideas (in general) but in particular issues he is correct. According to my opinion a fraction of Muslims just OVERDO IT...and the others if not accept it TOLERATE it.i am sorry but that has to change and first within the muslim communities everywhere in this world. By kos | September 2, 2010 8:12 AM Pvda is also against violence/hatred and also against victimising someone? what do you think? By Meh for Ingrid | September 2, 2010 9:19 AM Yes you are right there is a small group of people who are not tolerate enough but this kind of people are present in ever culture/nation/religion/race. By Meh for Kos | September 2, 2010 9:28 AM Ingrid, Wilders does NOT represent me, my Dutch husband, my Dutch friends and my expat friends. No matter what you say, or how many comments you post, this will NEVER change because I listen directly to the horse's mouth, not your rationalizations. And what he says disgusts me and everyone I know. And always will. Period. By CW | September 2, 2010 11:36 AM It does not matter how many times Mainstream Muslims denounce Terrorism, this is never big time news and therefore does not even make it to the news. No, he and you are not correct. There are idiots everywhere, Christian idiots, Jewish idiots, Muslim idiots, pagan idiots...should I go on.. Only speak if you actually know a Muslim or two in real life. By Saladin to Kos | September 2, 2010 12:52 PM People must be judged by their facts. What kind of democracy is going to defend a guy, that to make decisions within his party, consults with himself, he is the only voter, and acts according to the results of voting? By zenplus | September 2, 2010 10:25 PM
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Of course he doesn't have to do anything...He got what he wanted without making compromises - just for a minority vote in this country!!!
By Faten | August 26, 2010 8:20 AM