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Amsterdam mayor considers using 'decoy Jews' to combat anti-semitism

Monday 21 June 2010

Acting Amsterdam mayor Lodewijk Asscher is considering using police offcers posing as Jews in an attempt to stamp out anti-semitic violence, the Parool reports on Monday.

A spokesman said the suggestion, made last week by Labour MP Ahmed Marcouch, fits in with Asscher's decision to take unorthodox measures to try to reduce verbal and physical attacks on Jews in the capital.

Secret tv recordings by the Jewish broadcasting company Joodse Omroep broadcast on Sunday showed young men shouting and making Nazi salutes at a rabbi when he visited different areas of the city.

The city's police already use people posing as pensioners and gay men in an effort to catch muggers and gay-bashers.

© DutchNews.nl



 

Readers' Comments

Instead of having decoys, which isn't a bad idea, why doesn't the Dutch officials and citizens of Amsterdam take a stricter stance on people causing trouble.
It's all too passive here. Do they find the culprits, what kind of punishment can be expected?

By tomkat | 21 June 2010 3:19 PM

Just a Cripple, always in pain, not enough income to realistically survive, and no job ...
but I could have a job,
that I'm perfect for in Holland,
if the Police rig me up with hidden cameras.

By Gerard | 21 June 2010 3:20 PM

It's a shame that Palestinians aren't afforded the same protection in Israel or Gaza.

By Martin Southwell | 21 June 2010 3:56 PM

fantastic idea, nazism is growing btw, we must stop it, AGAIN, didnt we all say "never again" or "lest we forget"

if u lot knew how many nazis were out there u would be shocked

By adhd | 21 June 2010 4:04 PM

In the US they call it "entrapment" and it's not admissible in the eyes of the law. But again, when you're in Amsterdam, anything goes, as long as you get your man. So what happens when the offender claims to also pose as a decoy just to see if the police decoy is just a decoy. Does everybody goes home happy?

By Carlos Borjal | 21 June 2010 4:12 PM

how nice.. But why no one even considers "decoy muslims" or "decoy buddhist" ??

By Oguz Yilmaz | 21 June 2010 5:05 PM

Let's also go with decoy prostitutes, decoy toy-boys, decoy football fans, decoy skimmers, decoy terrorists, decoy toxic waste dumpers, etc. This should certainly make life much more interesting for the police & I would like to volunteer for a role which suits my disposition.

By Vogon Poet | 21 June 2010 5:06 PM

It is remarkable how Jews are targeted in almost all societies world wide. I have been in Israel many times and been married 8 years with a Sabra girl, born and raised in Palestine from local Jewish [grand]mothers many generations before the Zionists came there. I have seen the arrogance and the violence that the Israeli Zionists show towards the original inhabitants (Palestinians)that were living in peace with the Sabras before 1948. That Jews are suffering discrimination is the result of their own behavior towards non-Jews. Do not forget that the Jewish religion discriminates enormously against anybody who is not a Jew. Read the Talmud. In my opinion the Jewish religion first and all other religions there after should be abandoned and made illegal.

By Captain Zen | 21 June 2010 5:07 PM

This might be a good tactic for catching the more violent antisemitic type. They should concentrate their patrols through the centrum and especially the Bos en Lommer and baarjes areas.

By Quince | 21 June 2010 8:11 PM

I suppose there is no reason to do the same trying to discover attacks against Muslims, blacks or other minorities. With Geert Wilders -the big winner of the elections- speaking hate and racisms in every TV show around the country it will be waste of time, money and energy. Also I suppose its waste of time for Lodewijk Asscher to release any statement against the Zionist state of Israel for the brutal killings of civilians in international waters. Probably we have reach the Orwellian state so far. At the moment when all the Muslims are under fire everywhere in Europe Mr Asscher see only anti-Semitism. Nothing new. Its very common practice of the Israel and its "ambassadors" to call any anti-Zionist action anti-Semitism.

By Nikos | 21 June 2010 8:20 PM

A response to a couple of statements above:

"In the US they call it "entrapment" and it's not admissible in the eyes of the law."

This is false, and decoys are of course used routinely in prostitution and drug sweeps. It is only unacceptable if the perpetrator's conduct was not the result of their own propensities.

"It's a shame that Palestinians aren't afforded the same protection in Israel or Gaza."

Again, false as to Israel. Israeli Arabs are legally entitled to exactly the same rights as other Israelis. As to Gaza, complain to Hamas about that one. The Israelis pulled out years ago, and their status as an occupier is a fantasy.

"I have seen the arrogance and the violence that the Israeli Zionists show towards the original inhabitants (Palestinians)that were living in peace with the Sabras before 1948."

This is, of course, a lie. Violent, murderous Arab pogroms against Jews in Palestine were unfortunately common at least back to the 1920's. The collaboration of the Waqf with the Nazis is well documented.

There is enough ambiguity about the situation in the mideast as it is, without adding to it by repeating long discredited, racist cant.

By Green Eagle | 22 June 2010 1:38 PM

I would just like to remind everyone that all Jews are not Israelis. Thank you.

By Loxy Bagel | 22 June 2010 2:03 PM

RE: Carlos Borjal:

That's not quite correct. Entrapment is if the police invite you into doing something illegal. If you just walk up an proposition one, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

This, on the other hand, looks like a whole lot of fun. I do hope the Dutch police are allowed to protect themselves, though.

By Voyager | 22 June 2010 5:39 PM

Carlos Borjal is confused. In the USA this would definitely not be considered "entrapment".
(Entrapment would be if the police dressed up as skinheads and ran around encouraging others to assault people, and then arrested those who joined them.) It is a perfectly sensible use of law enforcement resources, no matter what country you live in.

By Baal | 22 June 2010 5:42 PM

@captain zen: Original inhabitants? Really. Define original. 1948? 1548? 30? 1500BC? Then the notion that due to the actions of Jew 1, 2, 3 that Jew 4, 5, 8 should be hated and have brought it on themselves is ridiculous. Take a logic class, then come back and apologize.

By AICS | 22 June 2010 9:19 PM

While protecting anyone who is under attack is a great things, im curious when only certain groups manage to gain the sympathies of the government.

By BladeWidth | 23 June 2010 9:05 AM

Meanwhile on a related note, there is a severe police shortage with hundreds of thousands of crimes going uninvestigated in NL.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/06/many_crimes_go_uninvestigated.php

Maybe this decoy project is not the best use for the police right now. There are people still waiting for justice who aren't getting it.

By J. | 23 June 2010 10:49 AM

I think it is a good idea for undercover operations.

By SandraV | 23 June 2010 11:09 AM

I've lived in Amsterdam all my live and I've never heard of any antisemitic violence anywhere in the city. I mean this city was practically built by the jews, and oh yes: how do you recognize a jew? You can't see he's circumsized, and the typical orthodox jews don't live here..

By Hert Zollner | 24 June 2010 1:12 AM

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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